1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 This is a UFO reporting center in Washington. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,000 We understand you saw something in the sky tonight. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,000 I wonder if we could get a description of exactly what happened. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Okay. 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,000 First, I want to tell you. 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 I kind of shook up. 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Let's see. 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,000 I went out to move my hose in the front yard, 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,000 and I looked at the rest of my house. 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:33,000 I noticed this really gorgeous light. 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:39,000 You know how sometimes when an airplane is coming towards you, 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,000 you see the white light, but then after a while it turns, 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,000 and you can see it's headlights, kind of. 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Yes. 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Well, 15 minutes and about 30 seconds. 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Bye. 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 It didn't turn. 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,000 It didn't move. 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:59,000 And I kind of got a landmark from the house across the street's TV antenna. 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:06,000 And it was in this same position, and then all of a sudden it started to the left real quick. 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:11,000 And then it went to the right up, though. 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,000 You know, it went back to the right in a diagonal upwards motion, 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:21,000 and then went back to the original place that I had seen it by my landmarkers antenna. 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:28,000 And then it started moving like, obviously, at the east, 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:35,000 like directly over top of me, and it was moving slowly. 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:42,000 And it was frightening because it appeared that I could reach out and grab it. 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,000 However, I know it was a lot further up than that. 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:52,000 And what it was, when it got over top of me, it was, and I was looking straight up, 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:59,000 it was perfectly round, and it, nothing was moving on it, but it had four red lights, 30 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:08,000 like one in, say, in the front of it, and one in the back, and then one on each side. 31 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:13,000 And then the white light that I guess had seen from the distance was like, 32 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:19,000 maybe like on the top so that the haze of white was coming down from the top of it. 33 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,000 So I could still see, you know, I saw the perfect outline. 34 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:30,000 And it was perfectly round, and it made a sound, but it wasn't an airplane sound, 35 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,000 it was more of a hum than anything else. 36 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:42,000 And I can't even tell you how long that it was up there because I was really numb by it. 37 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 You know, I was frightened. 38 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:53,000 And then all of a sudden, it took off again, but not as fast as it had darted originally. 39 00:02:53,000 --> 00:03:02,000 It took off to the east, east south, I guess, because I landmarked again by the high school 40 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,000 that's right, east due east of us, so it was a little bit south of that. 41 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:15,000 And I watched it, and I turned, and it kept going, and it just vanished out of sight. 42 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Towards, you know, towards the frittles there, like say, the Coyah area, King's Canyon area. 43 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Well, you watched it until it just moved away out of sight, didn't it? 44 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Well, no, it just disappeared. 45 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,000 It suddenly disappeared? 46 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Yeah, it just vanished. 47 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Okay. Just like turning off a light? 48 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Yeah, exactly. 49 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Okay. 50 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Okay, now let's get back to when the object was hovering overhead. 51 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Could you see an object, a surface of an object, or were you just looking at plain light? 52 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:57,000 No, it was, I don't want to say the substance was metal, but it was a hard physical substance. 53 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,000 It was, you know... 54 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,000 You could see a body of something there then. 55 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Right, but it was perfectly round. 56 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Okay. 57 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Because I was looking like from bottom straight up. 58 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Okay, now when you say round, you're not talking like round like a ball, you're talking like circular? 59 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Right, like would it be the radius? 60 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Right. 61 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Right, okay. 62 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Now did this object appear flat, or could you tell? 63 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Was it at an angle where you could tell the exact shape? 64 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:35,000 No, when it was coming towards, you know, when it was going east, all I saw was the light. 65 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,000 And it was shining because it looked like it was coming at me. 66 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Right. 67 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:50,000 And there was no blinking light, no nothing to indicate that it was a, even a, gosh, one of those blimps, you know, anything. 68 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,000 And I remember seeing a shape and thinking to myself, what is that like? 69 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,000 But I was so scared that I think I must have just... 70 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:06,000 My mind must have gone numb for a few minutes or something because I remember thinking that I thought of something, but I don't remember what I thought, if you know what I mean. 71 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Right. 72 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Because I couldn't move really, I was really scared because it's the first time that's ever happened. 73 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:26,000 And, but when it finally got to where I remember seeing it again, over, directly overhead, looking up like if it was directly overhead, I was looking straight up. 74 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:37,000 And like at the bottom of it, I remember seeing the metal or whatever it was surface and it was in a perfectly round, radius round shape. 75 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:42,000 With the white glow, maybe say on the top of it, shining down. 76 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 It was just the perfect white light. 77 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Was this glow, did it have a hazy effect around this object? 78 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Hazy effect? 79 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,000 I mean it wasn't, it wasn't a solid light, was it? 80 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:00,000 It was solid when I first saw it. 81 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Right, but I mean when it was directly overhead. 82 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 No, it was hazy light. 83 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,000 Okay. 84 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:12,000 Like I was looking at a silhouette, maybe with a light behind it kind of like, you know what I mean? 85 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Right, right, okay, right. 86 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:21,000 And you didn't see anything else other than that, the white and then the red lights. 87 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Right, and the red lights were just, in comparison to what the white light was, the red lights were very small and there were just four of them and they did not move at all. 88 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,000 They didn't flash or blink? 89 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,000 No. 90 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Okay, and were those red lights still on when the object started to move away from you? 91 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 They stayed on constantly. 92 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Okay, until it just suddenly vanished. 93 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Right. 94 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Okay. 95 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,000 It just disappeared. 96 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Okay, now can you give us an estimate on the altitude when it was directly overhead? 97 00:06:51,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Hmm, like I said, it felt like I was right there, like I could touch it, but I know that I was fighting and that's why it seemed so close. 98 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Um, hmm, gosh, I, hmm, the only way I could estimate it was like for a city block, it seemed like it would have been like a city block or maybe even two away, but not too much further. 99 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Okay. 100 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Now, if you were holding, if you took a 12 inch ruler and just held it straight up into the sky where that object was, how many or how wide would that be in inches on that ruler? 101 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Uh, like about two of them. 102 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 About two inches, okay. 103 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Or maybe, maybe more. 104 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Gosh, I remember what it looked like, but I, 105 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 That's very difficult to make those estimates. 106 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Well, it is, because all I remember feeling is just the whole sight, like everything was drained. 107 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,000 I was scared that I didn't have any saliva left in my mouth to calm my mind. 108 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Okay, when that was overhead, did it at any time appear to come closer as it was directly overhead? 109 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,000 Did it appear to descend towards you at all? 110 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Uh, no, not that I know of. 111 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Okay. 112 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,000 And it was, when it was overhead, was it stationary at all times? 113 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Yeah, it was just right there. 114 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Okay, and you could definitely hear that humming sound. 115 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Yeah, it was like a, um, I don't know what to... 116 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,000 How about a turbine? 117 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Well, I don't know how that sounds. 118 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 It was not an airplane. 119 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:39,000 An airplane, you know, as you hear it going through the sky, you can hear it goes, you know, but this was like a... 120 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 It was steady. 121 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Yeah, exactly. 122 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Okay. 123 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Did that sound change as it moved away? 124 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Did it increase or decrease in volume? 125 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,000 No, no, but as soon as the thing was out of sight, it was gone. 126 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,000 The sound was gone. 127 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Right, okay. 128 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,000 And that white light, did it maintain its constant brilliance at all times? 129 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,000 At all times. 130 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000 At all times. 131 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,000 Okay. 132 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Do you have any pets around your area? 133 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Uh-huh, I have my two dogs and a cat. 134 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 How did they react? 135 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:25,000 You know, that's really funny, you should ask that, because, um, uh, my one dog, well, let's see, my poodle was out... 136 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,000 My poodle was outside? 137 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:33,000 No, my poodle was in the back bedroom and he was carrying on high, but I thought that that's maybe because I was outside. 138 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 He's just a yapper anyhow. 139 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:41,000 But my other dog, my cockapoo, is in the living room because she just had a litter of puppies and she was in her little cage 140 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,000 and she was just carrying on too. 141 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:51,000 But then I have a little cat who was out with me who didn't, it didn't even, you know, phase it. 142 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,000 So probably the dogs were barking because I was out front. 143 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Did they calm down after this thing left? 144 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Um, no, they continued barking until I came in the house. 145 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Okay. 146 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 What time did you spot that? 147 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Oh, let's see. 148 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Uh, the only way I can associate the time, my sister was watching sitting here. 149 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Um, I went outside to move the water, approximately, let's see, sitting here started at 10, so say approximately between 10.13 and 10.30. 150 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Okay. 151 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:39,000 And that's when I probably saw it the first time and then for about 15 minutes and 30 seconds approximately that I sat there and watched it 152 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,000 until it started, you know, the first of all it started. 153 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:52,000 And it was a big enough dart in distance, it was far enough that you knew that your eyes weren't doing that, you know, how you focus on something so long. 154 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Right. 155 00:10:53,000 --> 00:11:00,000 And then when it went in the sky, it went three houses long, the houses that were directly in front of me across the street. 156 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,000 So it, you know, it was three houses long, the dart. 157 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,000 So it made it a pretty decent thing. 158 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Okay, now this numbing effect you had when you were watching that, do you feel that it was strictly because of fright? 159 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,000 I don't know. 160 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Was there, did your body have any tingling sensation at all? 161 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:38,000 In fact, I felt like I was, like, feet raised, you know, but like rubber or something like I was about ready to either pass out or something. 162 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Like, feet raised were going off through. 163 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:48,000 I was sitting here thinking, you know, who's the thing that didn't do something to me? 164 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,000 But that's kind of far, I guess. 165 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Did you have the feeling that you were singled out by this thing? 166 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,000 No. 167 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Okay. 168 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Were there any electric power problems in your neighborhood at the time that you noticed? 169 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Not to my knowledge, you know. 170 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Were you wearing a watch? 171 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Yes. 172 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Did you check the time on that by any chance? 173 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Yeah, but the only thing I remember as far as crime was the 15 minutes and 30 seconds. 174 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,000 Approximately 30 seconds. 175 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,000 But you didn't feel there was any loss of time while you were watching this, did you? 176 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,000 No. 177 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Other than, I know the 15 minutes, but when I came back in at 11.15, I had been gone longer than when I realized I was out there. 178 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:50,000 When I left, sitting here was maybe into it, say, a half hour rather than 15 minutes. 179 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,000 And then when I came back in, my sister had been watching the news for 15. 180 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,000 But I hadn't seemed like I had been gone that long. 181 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,000 So I must have really been scared. 182 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 You came in about 11.15? 183 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Yeah, around there, yeah. 184 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:16,000 And then I called my mom right away to tell her, and I asked her if she'd call whoever you called to see if, you know, something weird is up there. 185 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,000 How long do you feel you watch that? 186 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Well, like I said, the brilliant light when I singled it out in the sky, because it isn't something you'd have to take a second look at. 187 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,000 It was just right there, just brilliant. 188 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:37,000 I mean, the North Star sticks out, but this was just immense. 189 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,000 And I watched that 15 minutes and 30 seconds until it did its little dart. 190 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:49,000 And then as soon as it started and went back to the same original place, then it started going overhead. 191 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Okay, then you... 192 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000 That's a headache. 193 00:13:52,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Okay, then from the time you first spotted the light until the time the thing disappeared, how long would you say that was? 194 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:06,000 You got into the house about 11.15, you know? 195 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Or 11.10. 196 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Well, no, it had to be late in that because the weather was on, and that was the last thing. 197 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 So it was about 11.15. 198 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Okay. 199 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Do you feel that you were watching it at all that time, or that you might have lost some time there? 200 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,000 I don't know. I'm really... I don't know. I'm really afraid to say. 201 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,000 That's fine. That's fine. 202 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,000 All I know is I'd never felt so scared in my whole life. 203 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,000 I understand your neighbor saw it also. 204 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Yeah. 205 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,000 Did he watch it as long as you did? 206 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Uh, yes. 207 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:54,000 It's really weird though because the whole time when he was there, I still felt alone. 208 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Now, you want a busy thoroughfare by any chance? 209 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Oh, no. 210 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Okay. 211 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,000 But we're on a residential, you know, quiet... 212 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,000 It was country, but they built it up around us. 213 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Okay. 214 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Is this the first time you've ever seen anything like this? 215 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,000 Anything like this, yes. 216 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:17,000 What was your opinion of the subject of UFOs before this happened? 217 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Um... 218 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,000 I didn't really care. 219 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,000 It was really too deep to get into. I don't understand them that much. 220 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Okay. 221 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:35,000 What's the bucket for? 222 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Okay, if we could get somebody in there to talk to you, to get some diagrams and so forth, would this be permissible? 223 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,000 It's a medium. 224 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Okay. 225 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Well, we sure appreciate your talking to us. 226 00:15:52,000 --> 00:16:00,000 And, uh, if we come up with any information on this object through our investigation, we'll get back to you and let you know about it. 227 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Okay, well, all I know is that, whether anybody else knows what it was, all I know is that there's something that I've never seen before, and I hope I never see it again. 228 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,000 Well, if it's a description of things that they're seeing all over the world. 229 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:20,000 Which probably are not what we think are little things in and flying saucers, but something else. 230 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Well, we know that they're not from this planet. I don't know whether they've got little green men or women or what. 231 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Well, you know, I really hesitated even calling my mom because I... 232 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,000 I don't know. You know, I don't want anybody to think I'm crazy. 233 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Well, we understand that. Of course, you know, one of the big problems is we have trouble convincing the public that this is very, very important for them to report these things. 234 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,000 So you don't have to worry about that. Okay. 235 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:58,000 And if we need further information, could we feel free to call you back again? Sure. 236 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Okay, thank you again. Thank you very much. Bye-bye.